tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1478627399440086977.post2279872583713108314..comments2023-11-21T04:49:01.702-05:00Comments on A Dog Named Kyoto: Global Warming as Mass NeurosisA Dog Named Kyotohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10859158097418832063noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1478627399440086977.post-166548013920581532008-07-04T15:55:00.000-04:002008-07-04T15:55:00.000-04:00Mitsu,Your faith in "global" temperatures is touch...Mitsu,<BR/>Your faith in "global" temperatures is touching. The quality of individual temperature measurement is suspect in even the most developed countries, the mix of urban vs rural measurements has changed over the years, and unauditable adjustments are applied to the raw data, which then disappears from the public record, replaced by the adjusted data. If these were financial records instead of temperature records the keepers of them would be in jail for fraud or negligence. <BR/><BR/>Citing consensus among models is the most risible statement in your comment. The models do not represent reality, ignoring insolation and water vapour and wildly exaggerating the effect of CO2. The fact that they agree with each other while being unable to deal with the real world should cause you to pause before citing them in your arguments.<BR/><BR/>But maybe you are right, despite the raw data being flawed and the models not being worth anything. I doubt it, but I am biased so you can attack me ad hominem just as you attacked the author of the article. Whatever. If you are right, and CO2 concentrations and global temperatures are on the rise and are causally related, what authority do you cite that says this is a bad thing? If it is a bad thing, is it the WORST thing? Because it has certainly pushed a lot of other topics off the agenda. People are wasting their money on carbon taxes and carbon credits while real problems go unfunded. <BR/><BR/>True believers are so convinced of the virtue of the AGW mission that they have lost perspective and any sense of doubt. Carbon taxes and offsets are symbolic gestures that cost real money. It's criminal.<BR/><BR/>But thanks for stopping by this blog and bringing something resembling facts. Most of your counterparts just tend to shout insults.Zookeeperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07454330013436283393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1478627399440086977.post-9129336719493575552008-07-03T21:31:00.000-04:002008-07-03T21:31:00.000-04:00That article is filled with distortions and misinf...That article is filled with distortions and misinformation. The author works for one of the most partisan global warming skeptic think tanks in existence; his bias shows. The NASA data he's talking about only refers to the warmest years *in the United States* --- if you take global temperatures (which really are the only relevant measure, since there are always transient local variations in temperature), the hottest year on record is 2005, and the ten hottest years (globally) are all after 1994. It's laughable to suggest, furthermore, that the fact that some areas are getting colder in any way discredits the science ---- the models all predict that, while the planet is warming overall, some areas will get colder, because of changes in weather, currents, etc. The North Pole is showing unprecedented warming, and many ice shelves in Antarctica have broken up --- all events that haven't been seen in a hundred years or more of observations, and as I mentioned before, the global temperature, measured in many different ways, has been the warmest in recent years by a large margin. Finally, the ocean sensor data only covers the last five years, and it's a new experiment ---- it's not even remotely "discrediting" the science.<BR/><BR/>This article is woefully wrong on the science and nothing more than an attempt at political spin. It's disgraceful that a major newspaper would print such a blatantly false "opinion" piece from a wholly unreliable think tank.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com